165/65r14 Tire Discussion

[Wallythacker]

I somehow have 3 sets of the factory Dunlops. One set came on my 2017 which had about 1,800kms when purchased and those tires were removed immediately so snow tires could be mounted.

My second set was the same deal, I bought my brand new 2014 in late October and I had snows mounted immediately and the factory Dunlops got stored.

I have no memory how I acquired the 3rd set of Enesaves, but I checked and they're in the tire rack in my garage

[Fummins]

I came across a good deal on some new stock size tires from Quattro tires. A set of 4 Kumho Solus 4S HA32 shipped to my door, tax inc. is $352 cad. Then there's an $80 mail in rebate that makes them $68/tire all in. I bought the same set for my previous car when they also had a similar promo. https://www.quattrotires.com/tires/k...-4s-ha32/36613

[7milesout]

Just thought I'd throw this tidbit in here. I just had my stock / OEM (165/65-14 Enasave) tars rotated. They all measured 5/32" @ ~28,000 miles. Per the spec's they start off at 9/32". I guess I'd replace them at 0/32". Ok, just kidding, I think they're posa be replaced at 2/32". However, if I'm completely honest, I generally ride them until I feel they're at risk of just letting air out ... or if I see cord wearing through. I can't help it.

So ... just for giggles, let's say I replace them at 1/32". That means I get 8/32's worth of wear. And I done done worned off 4/32". Suffice it to say, I appear to be at about half-life with them. Which means, maybe I'll go about 55k to 60k miles on these tars. Not bad. Flame suit on.

I wouldn't run them bald like that up in the great white north. But down here in Shangri-La, it ain't no thang.

[Mark]

Just thought I'd throw this tidbit in here. I just had my stock / OEM (165/65-14 Enasave) tars rotated. They all measured 5/32" @ ~28,000 miles. Per the spec's they start off at 9/32". I guess I'd replace them at 0/32". Ok, just kidding, I think they're posa be replaced at 2/32". However, if I'm completely honest, I generally ride them until I feel they're at risk of just letting air out ... or if I see cord wearing through. I can't help it.

So ... just for giggles, let's say I replace them at 1/32". That means I get 8/32's worth of wear. And I done done worned off 4/32". Suffice it to say, I appear to be at about half-life with them. Which means, maybe I'll go about 55k to 60k miles on these tars.

Not bad. Flame suit on.

I used to be quite harsh on the Dunlop Enasave tires, but in the end they lasted longer than I expected. I'm not the best resource for mileage on tires.

I bought my Mirage in October of 2017, & I determined right away that the Enasaves were not going to get the job done during the winter months. I had a pair of new aftermarket steel rims & snow tires up front by mid-December. That following June I lost one to a side wall blow out. It happened to the rear driver's tire, & I saw no reason for this to happen. Thus, I was skeptical of the tires ever since.

I can honestly say now, one pair of Dunlop Enasave tires lasted longer than the pair of Federal SS657 tires I bought at the time. Back then, there were fewer choices & the Federal tires were about $40/tire (one third the cost of a Dunlop at the time). I still have the worn out Dunlop Enasave tires (one is in my spare wheel well spot). They did wear quite nicely, but I never trusted them. I started carrying a full size spare, because of my previous experience with them. I never lost a tire to a sidewall issue like that before.

I no longer think they are a crappy tire, but at $162/tire @ Walmart (today's price) I would pick something else. If someone gave me a set, however, I would gladly use them!

[Mark]

I see myself sticking with factory size 165/65r14 tires for the life of my Mirage. Thus, I sort of keep track of what is out there.

For the past couple years, I have felt the Nexen N'Priz AH5 & Kumho Solus TA31 have been the best two 165/65r14 all-season tire offerings in the States (especially when you find them in the $50-70 price range on sale).

I have recently noticed a new 165/65r14 all-season Kumho tire, & it is on sale on the Walmart site for $68.03/tire with free shipping today. That could change tomorrow. If you compare the specs of the three tires, you will see the specs of this new Kumho Solus TA51a tire are quite good!

The Kumho Solus TA51a has the highest UTQG rating, best warranty, deepest thread depth, & I prefer the higher maximum 51 psi rating. I am not 100% sure of the tire weight, but one vendor listed it @ 14 pounds. This is the best warranty (highest UTQG rating) that I have seen on any 165/65r14 tire offered in the States.

Kumho Solus TA51a 79T (all-season) -
640AA, 51 psi, 10/32”, 14 lbs, 22.4”, 4.5 - 6” rims, 75,000 miles, Korea
Comments:

Kumho Solus TA31 79T (all-season) -
500AA, 44 psi, 9.5/32”, 14.2 lbs, 22.4”, 4.5 - 6” rims, 60,000 miles, Korea
Comments:

Nexen NPriz AH5 79T (all-season) -
460AA, 51 psi, 9/32", 13 lbs, 22.4", 4.5 - 6” rims, 50,000 miles, Korea
Comments:

It always pays to shop around for any particular tire, but I would not overlook Walmart. Walmart also mounts tires bought through them for free. There was a $14 lifetime balance charge last time I had tires done. $1.50 fee/tire for old tire disposal, which is no big deal!

In my case, I don't live near a Discount Tire or other tire chain stores.

This Kumho Solus TA51a is priced today @
Tires Easy =$92
Simple Tire = $92 (claim it was $149)
Walmart = $68.03

Kumho's tire warranties seem quite good in my opinion, too! See below if interested -

https://www.kumhotireusa.com/us/glob...12&iditem=4113

[7milesout]

kumho solus ta51a 79t (all-season) -
640aa, 51 psi, 10/32”, 14 lbs, 22.4”, 4.5 - 6” rims, 75,000 miles, korea

I'm out.

kumho solus ta31 79t[/b] (all-season) -
500aa, 44 psi, 9.5/32”, 14.2 lbs, 22.4”, 4.5 - 6” rims, 60,000 miles, korea

I'm out.

nexen npriz ah5 79t[/b] (all-season) -
460aa, 51 psi, 9/32", 13 lbs, 22.4", 4.5 - 6” rims, 50,000 miles, korea

I'm out.

[jdollatari]

Finally bought a new set of tires for my 2018 (still using the original dunlops) grabbed a set of winter tires also dunlop was somewhere around 600 bucks at the dealer which was/is the only reliable source for this size tire it seems in my area others are often out of stock or have to order

[Mark]

Finally bought a new set of tires for my 2018 (still using the original dunlops) grabbed a set of winter tires also dunlop was somewhere around 600 bucks at the dealer which was/is the only reliable source for this size tire it seems in my area others are often out of stock or have to order

I assume you got the Dunlop Winter Maxx 2, & I think those are a great choice. Those & the Nokian Nordman 7 are the most common ones I see available. Nordman 7 can be had with or without studs, but I live in an area where studs are not allowed. I think either snow tires is a decent choice (which is good, because there's not much else beside a few lesser known Chinese brands).

[jdollatari]

I assume you got the Dunlop Winter Maxx 2, & I think those are a great choice. Those & the Nokian Nordman 7 are the most common ones I see available. Nordman 7 can be had with or without studs, but I live in an area where studs are not allowed. I think either snow tires is a decent choice (which is good, because there's not much else beside a few lesser known Chinese brands).

Correct winter maxx 2 is what I purchased

[Wallythacker]

Not long ago lots of Canucks would cross border to buy tires and batteries as they were WAY cheaper. Customs caught on and made a few examples of peeps who didn't declare the purchases. I recall one stooge wailing about Customs impounding his car, removing the tires and leaving the car on blocks. Cost him $1200 over and above the tire cost for impound fees, penalties, taxes. y

I would love to buy those Walmart tires today but don't want to risk the hit by Customs as I don't feel like a 40% hit on the dollar plus a 13% hit for taxes. All of a sudden they aren't worth it. Guess I'll watch Quattro tire for sales.