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[Fummins]

You could run a power cord to your neighbor's house outside outlet. Get a white cord for winter and run it before snow hits ... in late August. It'll be good until what, late June? Seriously, your power bill shouldn't go up much or not at all. Why do want go and be all, "my electric bill will go up" negative about it. You're welcome.

I only have 5+ cars on accident. Not my fault.

Great points. An ev would probably use less power than the who knows how many amazon and google listening devices the wife has all over the house. Why start complaining now. Last winter we had couple monthly gas and power bills that were close to what I paid for my Mirage. This would be a great time to get a wood stove, and get a couple cords of wood with my dodge to offset my carbon footprint
Borrowing power would be a great idea or I could run a generator instead!

I guess I'll be up 5, temporarily. But only 2 of us in the house are old enough to drive

[Eggman]

1. Charge at work.
2. EVs are easy to drive and great for new drivers to learn on.

[Mark]

If I could do life over, I would have spent less time dreaming about future vehicles.

Since purchasing my 2017 Mirage, I've been content with what I have (including my 2011 Forester that I purchased used in 2013). I've lost interest in buying something else.

I don't know if I've changed with age, just really don't like the new stuff coming out, or my Mirage cured my window shopping/dream vehicle addiction?

Over-priced vehicles loaded with features that I could care less about are somewhat repulsive to me. That may have been my cure right there? Simple affordable vehicles no longer exist in 2024.

Bottom line - I feel blessed to own two nice vehicles that serve my needs quite well, & I hope my need for one doesn't change for another 10+ years.

I'm not raining on anyone else's dream vehicle. I've just lost the desire to throw more money at vehicles.

[Eggman]

There's very little chance my motorcycle is anywhere near that fast. But here's the thing, once I had enough knee-dragging motorcycle racing, all my need for speed went out the window. Trust me when I say, fast driving on the street is not fast at all. It's actually quite dumb. There are no corner workers on the street, and every single female has their phone in their hand and most glued to their face. And half the males do too. I'm glued to what's going on, and focused on smooth comfortable driving. Not trying to get from one traffic light to the next as quick as possible.

0-60mph: 1.9 seconds - Means nothing to me. I could care less. If it did, I wouldn't own a Mirage now would I?
Top speed: 250+ mph ... why? It's irrelevant. If I ever tried it, I'd crash or get caught by the law.
Range: 620 miles - For the first charge and -10 miles each subsequent charge. But even if it's 620 miles, it takes 4 days and 7 hours to recharge to get another 620 miles out of it.

Don't get me wrong. I don't DISLIKE electric cars. But when they produce one that is actually green, can be fully charged in south Georgia in 15 minutes, and is AFFORDABLE. I might be interested. But not for the 0-60 mph times.

In response to an EV you claim you don't care for speed - it means nothing to you. But in your original post which started this thread you are interested in a V8 motorcycle.

So ... here we go. This is something I am SERIOUSLY considering. However, I'm waiting on a couple milestones in my life. But they're not too far away.


Within a year's time, I would like to procure a Boss Hoss. It is a complete ridiculous and fairly worthless motorcycle. A behmouth of a motorcycle with a Chevy V8 engine. The example below would be perfect, but I'll be shopping used, so I may not be able to get Ed Zachery what I want. And I also may just wait and see if this vehicle bubble goes away. I'd hate to spend $10k more than I'd have to.

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It appears you are contradicting yourself. Which isn't a big deal, just curious.

You do like speed.

[7milesout]

I like the Boss Hoss for the cool factor. I consider it a big fat worthless slug as far as speed goes. It seems some riders sort of make it go fast in a straight line. Which again I don't care about. However, if you put a Boss Hoss on a drag strip, most motorcycles would outrun it. Because it runs sort of like a CVT. It's actually a 2-speed, manually shifted. I think its a transmission that dirt track cars use, but I'm not sure on that.

Once cranked, you drop it into 1st gear (no clutch), and it acts like an automatic. But it stays in 1st gear until you pooooosh the shifter lever down to 2nd gear. And the factory says not to bother with 2nd unless your speeds or 50+ mph (something like that). 1st gear will run out to over 100 mph.

The point is, first gear is sort of like "1st gear" in the Mirage CVT ... it is slow. So yeah, it's cool, and loud, and oh so very fuel efficient, but my little 600 cc bike that I raced on will make mince meat out of a Boss Hoss in every performance category. In my opinion, fast it is not.

[Fummins]

I went for a quick visit to a relatives place last night. Mentioned I wanted that p100d but it's out of my budget so I'm gonna look at a Bolt. Things escalated quickly lol. I don't know much about ev's but it seems that they were far more knowledgeable than I am.

They taught me:
-Ev's are only good for in town use.
-Lithium batteries are not recycled and are buried in a landfill.
-Buying a used ev is dumb because the range drops to only a few kms once they're about 5 years old.
-You can't charge a battery to more than 30% in the winter.
-The cost to maintain an ev is considerably more than a gas car.
-Ev chargers give of radiation and give everyone cancer.
-You can't take an ev on a road trip.
-There is only one Ev charger north of edmonton.
-You are more likely to be injured or worse in and accident as an ev occupant.
-Only Trudeau supporters own ev's.
-Brakes wear out quicker and cost more to replace in an ev.
-If someone in their household buys an ev they're getting a divorce.

That was an eye opener lol.

I tried to debunk most of the above claims. But I find my cat is far more receptive.
-Many ev's are safe(afaik), likely far better off in an accident than a Mirage. Nobody seemed to care about me owning it lol
-I believe a used Bolt should be able to get around 300km highway range(from a full charge), at least in the summer.
-A wrecked or end of life ev is recycled just like a regular car. You can buy a used ev battery from a wrecker on car-part.com for far less than a new one if needed. There are lots of company's that refurbish used/junk/defective batteries and resell them.
-If everyone had an ev charger and used it at the same time, the current power grid would probably fail. But not everyone has an ev so I'm not worried about it atm.
-I've only taken my Mirage out of town 3-4 times in 3ish years. I don't need to road trip an ev, we have other vehicles. But I'd like to give it a try just because.
-Brakes and wheel bearings for a Bolt don't cost any more for a Bolt than they do for a Mirage. The Bolt rear brakes may even be cheaper and may be easier to source.
-I don't support the dickhead out east.
-I have a heated garage so really don't have a need to charge in -40. I believe the charging speed does suck a lot in the winter. My only concern is having an issue leaving work after it sits for 10hrs on the street in -30 to -40. There's a chance I could plug in at work during the day but it'd be a pita.
-Afaik there isn't much to maintain on an ev. Tires seem to be the biggest wear item. This Bolt comes with a couple sets so that'd help a little bit. I found a bunch of cheapo tires on quattro but even the more expensive yokohama or michelins are around $1000 for a set or 4.
-Brakes often rust away before wearing out because they're not needed as much.


I see the ad has been taken down now. Not sure if it expired or. I'm looking at it tomorrow by the sounds of it. Don't worry, I'm the furthest thing from a granola person, I just want to try something different. I've always liked having somewhat odd or somewhat unique vehicles, and just being able to try something different til I get bored of it or realize it was a bad idea. A few are 86 Fiero 2.5l 4spd, 84 Sj410(samurai)1.0L!) ,2014 Mirage...,94 thunderbird,86 bronco inline 6cyl 4spd, 79 C-10 stepside, 94 Firebird t-top 6spd, 86 cutlass w/t-tops, 05 dodge dually 6spd, 86 excel 5spd,84 escort 4spd lol. Mostly just junk beaters but all were completely different than driving a corolla.

[Eggman]

I went for a quick visit to a relatives place last night. Mentioned I wanted that p100d but it's out of my budget so I'm gonna look at a Bolt. Things escalated quickly lol. I don't know much about ev's but it seems that they were far more knowledgeable than I am.

They taught me:
-Ev's are only good for in town use.
-Lithium batteries are not recycled and are buried in a landfill.
-Buying a used ev is dumb because the range drops to only a few kms once they're about 5 years old.
-You can't charge a battery to more than 30% in the winter.
-The cost to maintain an ev is considerably more than a gas car.
-Ev chargers give of radiation and give everyone cancer.
-You can't take an ev on a road trip.
-There is only one Ev charger north of edmonton.
-You are more likely to be injured or worse in and accident as an ev occupant.
-Only Trudeau supporters own ev's.
-Brakes wear out quicker and cost more to replace in an ev.
-If someone in their household buys an ev they're getting a divorce.

That was an eye opener lol.

I tried to debunk most of the above claims. But I find my cat is far more receptive.
-Many ev's are safe(afaik), likely far better off in an accident than a Mirage. Nobody seemed to care about me owning it lol
-I believe a used Bolt should be able to get around 300km highway range(from a full charge), at least in the summer.
-A wrecked or end of life ev is recycled just like a regular car. You can buy a used ev battery from a wrecker on car-part.com for far less than a new one if needed. There are lots of company's that refurbish used/junk/defective batteries and resell them.
-If everyone had an ev charger and used it at the same time, the current power grid would probably fail. But not everyone has an ev so I'm not worried about it atm.
-I've only taken my Mirage out of town 3-4 times in 3ish years. I don't need to road trip an ev, we have other vehicles. But I'd like to give it a try just because.
-Brakes and wheel bearings for a Bolt don't cost any more for a Bolt than they do for a Mirage. The Bolt rear brakes may even be cheaper and may be easier to source.
-I don't support the dickhead out east.
-I have a heated garage so really don't have a need to charge in -40. I believe the charging speed does suck a lot in the winter. My only concern is having an issue leaving work after it sits for 10hrs on the street in -30 to -40. There's a chance I could plug in at work during the day but it'd be a pita.
-Afaik there isn't much to maintain on an ev. Tires seem to be the biggest wear item. This Bolt comes with a couple sets so that'd help a little bit. I found a bunch of cheapo tires on quattro but even the more expensive yokohama or michelins are around $1000 for a set or 4.
-Brakes often rust away before wearing out because they're not needed as much.


I see the ad has been taken down now. Not sure if it expired or. I'm looking at it tomorrow by the sounds of it. Don't worry, I'm the furthest thing from a granola person, I just want to try something different. I've always liked having somewhat odd or somewhat unique vehicles, and just being able to try something different til I get bored of it or realize it was a bad idea. A few are 86 Fiero 2.5l 4spd, 84 Sj410(samurai)1.0L!) ,2014 Mirage...,94 thunderbird,86 bronco inline 6cyl 4spd, 79 C-10 stepside, 94 Firebird t-top 6spd, 86 cutlass w/t-tops, 05 dodge dually 6spd, 86 excel 5spd,84 escort 4spd lol. Mostly just junk beaters but all were completely different than driving a corolla.

It's bizarre how some folks are offended and/or threatened by EVs.

[7milesout]

Eggman - There might be a higher ratio of EVs to EV chargers where you live. But it seems in CA, maybe the ratio is not so great for CA drivers. I don't really know. But an interesting article here: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/frust...112200866.html

[Eggman]

Eggman - There might be a higher ratio of EVs to EV chargers where you live. But it seems in CA, maybe the ratio is not so great for CA drivers. I don't really know. But an interesting article here: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/frust...112200866.html

My situation is different from that 'influencer' in the video.

I can charge at home for a fraction of what it costs to charge at a Supercharger station or any other commercial place. The guy in the video can too - maybe he's too tired & wore out making videos to plug in at the garage? I can't speak for the guy.

There are a lot of Teslas in my neighborhood (seriously) but I guess they all charge at home too. There are a few Supercharger stations around but I've never seen one packed with a line waiting. And there are new Supercharger stations going in locally and in the region. The network is growing, it just takes time to build out.


The biggest complaint I'm aware of is excessive tire wear, and I don't think it is solely due to weight. Compare the weight of a Model 3 Long Range to a variety of other cars (especially all-wheel drives, trucks & SUVs) and the Tesla weighs maybe 200 - 300lbs more for the same type of vehicle. I'm going to guess it's around 10% - 20% difference. From the perspective of percentages, that 20% weight difference doesn't directly correlate with the increased tire wear.

It's the instantaneous power. And that power is addictive.

At current wear I estimate I might get around 30,000 miles out of my OEM set of Michelins, or another year give or take. I'm looking for a replacement set. Haven't seen many options from Toyo, but I'll keep looking for sure.

Speaking of which, I want to get a wider set of tires - wider than what shipped from the factory. The rims are wider than the tire section width on the original set. I'm sure there must be a reason for it but I'd rather scuff the sidewall a little instead of scraping the rims. Any ideas why the rims would be wider than the tires? Is there some performance benefit?

[Grumpy Bear]

And I like that vehicle. But it has a gas guzzler monster 4-banger for an engine. But a very worth vehicle, in 5-speed form.

Ridiculous right? Why such a monster?